are glocks safe to carry chambered
They say tomato, I say Condition 1 Here's video that GLOCK produced that explains the trigger safety. Open range is a good movie and as far as the other guys standing there in real life its called shock value I did love the the fact Costners six shooter magically self loaded. No thanks. I made a folder called TTAG comments, and put all pages Ive commented on in there. Back in the old days of guns, they didn't really have any safety at all. The most obvious one is we have an external safety. Carrying on an empty chamber is probably one of the most common beginner mistakes I hear. Ive always been a SA semi, or when Rugeting for fun, their SA revolvers, like Single 6 w/Wmr cyl. Im so glad to have seen the one person who never makes a mistake! Or some jackass was pocket carrying his G43 without a holster and something snagged the trigger. What Glock Is Most Used By Law Enforcement; Who Makes The Glock 22 And thats only firearms. This means that if the hammer is carried down on a live round, the firing pin will still not be able to touch the primer, even though the hammer is sitting right down on the pin. . In the case of the 43X, the barrel is 87mm or 3.41 inches long. 2. It is a compact pistol that is chambered in 9mm and is designed for concealed carry. One other one was very tragic. And an unloaded weapon does you no good if/when you need it. Too big, to heavy although I can cock the hammer on the draw with no problem (passive firing pin models). By all means, carry what you are competent to handle effectively and safely. Make that line above into: a solution in search of a problem. Thats when I started looking for a better way. Third, the reason that actual experts (I would say I am knowledgeable to a point, but an expert I am not) recommend NOT carrying in Condition Three is for the reason that it takes a lot of training and repetition to get truly proficient and most people with a lot of training and proficiency dont carry their pistol unloaded. People that just cant accept what someone else wants to do compared to what they feel is best for them smacks of their insecurity.. Introduced in 2012, the Shield is thinner and lighter than the M&P Compact and features an improved trigger. I now have a Walther P99 (OK, Im a Walther fan). So, as DG said, its a problem in search of a solution. In the past, I've heard people say they aren't comfortable carrying a loaded firearm on them or want to just scare people away. Or tell them to carry only 5 bullets instead of six?? Let the flaming begin, No flame. It prevents the trigger from being manipulated unless a finger is pressing on it. To chamber or not to chamber? Alright so you said all the pros, not all are valid. Just go to there web site, or go to your gun store for more information. Note, the sentry safe does have a security vulerablity that can be mitigated by covering a hole with stainless steel tape. I have a Sig DA/SA, fully loaded no problem. Most cap and ball revolvers have carry notches between the nipple notches. I would hope that all semi-auto handguns have some sort of striker/firing-pin block that absolutely prevents detonation from dropping the pistol. I dont have to hit a bypass cause its cocked, or turn off a safety, just pump and fire. A lot of guns, particularly the early revolvers, were considered too dangerous to carry with a loaded chamber because a sharp bump or drop could cause it to fire. Considering the capabilities of the average glock owner, in front of the muzzle is likely the safest place to be. I have for almost 40 years and have it properly holstered. . However, it is not unusual for some new to guns like Glocks to be concerned about carrying a round chambered. 7. Sykes wrote their highly influential book, " Shooting To Live," based on their experiences with the Shanghai Police Department. Kids are grown, hoping dad doesnt ever need to move in, not the reverse lol, and I have em where I need em to be and they are ready when I am. Agree with the author 100%. A Glock is a reputable brand name of pistols, and the weight of the trigger pull can mean the difference in between a firearm firing and not shooting. Also thank goodness I dont even have to make THAT choice. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'guntradition_com-leader-1','ezslot_8',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-1-0');I do know one engineer who figured out that if it was dropped from 221 feet and it lands on the right angle squarely on its barrel, it could possibly go off, but the bullet would immediately strike the ground and not do much after that. B.D. To fire the pistol, the trigger safety and the trigger itself must be deliberately depressed at the same time. the safety doesnt enter into it. The Glock series of semi-automatic pistols features Glock's Safe Action System and a loaded chamber indicator.The Safe Action System comprises three passive safeties. You just have to scroll down to it. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The hammer connects with a firing pin thats integrated into the frame, which strikes the primer. In my 3-screw, yes. Carrying On An Empty Chamber. You know, due to the stress of OH MY GOD SOMEONES BREAKING INTO THE HOUSE AND HES GOT A GUN! Cocked and locked . No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Never happened yet I would rather shoot myself in the leg but still be in fight than have bad guy shoot me because I didnt have a chambered round. Congratulations. People who dont carry with a round in the chamber have no training. If you are a dumb person who cannot immediately see why it is dumb, go to Youtube and watch dumb people like you dying in a hail of bullets while they struggle with the slides on their unchambered guns. A few overly trigger-happy officers within a department and a sly PR department really spun yarns on this one. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'guntradition_com-leader-2','ezslot_6',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-2-0');All this comes from an old incident within the New York City Police Department. But Knute is fine, and nobody else seems to want it. There is no way to put a round in the chamber without leaving the striker cocked, and there is no safety. As for me on striker fired Im sure they are just as safe as any other design I just like to see whats going on, . (Take that, NYPD!) As long as you use some sort of holster that covers the trigger, and keep your finger out of the trigger area, leave the 19 in the holster, unless its needed, you wont have a problem. Have you ever failed to yield the right of way when making a left turn? or not. I think it's more about . COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. And, sorry youre a confused fool. It takes a dedicated squeeze of the finger. While millions of Americans keep and/or bear GLOCKs and GLOCK-like striker-fired pistols without mishap, mishaps do sometimes occur.Let's face it: the average gun owner has lousy trigger discipline. Theoretically, the slide safety could be accidentally disengaged in your holster rendering a cocked and locked 1911 significantly more susceptible to a ND when drawn given the user didnt know the safety was disengaged. Which gun would you choose if you could only have ONE each of: Rimfire rifle, rimfire pistol, centerfire rifle, centerfire pistol, and shotgun? While carrying or holstering? Discharge during take down? Its your right to be retarded. Of course all of those Glock NDs were due to human error. And it will ALWAYS stay in its holster right? Why, I havent the slightest idea. What you are overlooking is the odds. MOLON LABE. Um. I carry "Mexican" and don't want to end up like Plaxico Burress. But youll likely carry for years and years, manipulating said weapon an uncountable number of times in the process. Glock 22 Gen 3 (Photo: Gunprime) The full-size Glock 22 was made to fill the gap between .45 and 9mm. - I'm too old to still think I know everything. Big thing, its hammer fired and its also DA/SA, so I have no problem with chambering a round and lowering the hammer. Kathy Jackson suggests that doing this safely comes down to two things, equipment and habits. Being an *untrained* klutz is something entirely different. 1:43:08-1:43:32. A loaded Glock is a little more dangerous than a striker with a heavier trigger and when you carry a missile behind the hammer and like a lite trigger , like I do , I advise people to carry a thumb safety , like I do . I cant believe this is even a subject for discussion. 1) either way you do it it takes Training, 2) ya silly ass might forget to flip the safety an fire so there is you 3 seconds, 3) the bullet may not fire, in which case you have to chamber anyway. To each their own, and god speed, The first gunm I packed was a SA .22 with a half cock safety and I loaded all the holes, then I went DA but cocked it most of the time.so I got in a habit of cocking the hammers Then I went to auto pistols and just never did trust that hammer sticking up so I carry them with one in the chamber on half cock. I can raise and lower the bolt slowly in complete silence. Training is nothing more than repetition. Israeli special forces dont empty chamber carry. The Glock trigger is too light and too short to be safe, and I understand Glocks are way far overrepresented in the annals of ND, which is very easy to understand. So old single actions have to be handled and loaded in a certain way to be carried safely. We are compensated for referring traffic and business to Amazon and other companies linked to on this site. If you have a modern weapon in a holster that covers the trigger, you are in pretty good shape. Call us at (586) 333-4240, and we'll guide you through the process of choosing a holster to suit your needs. Anything is possible, which is why the smart move is to play to the best probabilities. The hammer snagged on a branch, and he shot his horse (he was twisted by the tree). The gunfight at the end was pretty good otherwise, but at one point Costner gets 16 shots out of his Colt SAA without reloading. There are also the safety concerns . That carries over to shooting, believe it or not. So you are in reality arguing that if someone makes a *negligent mistake*, the Glock is more likely to discharge than another firearm. Big Bill: Yup. Its interesting to note that Massoud Ayoob reported that when one Police Department got fed up with all the accidental discharges with Glocks and went over to a double action only auto that accidental discharges dropped to almost zero. Negligence or stupidity, flip the coin on word choice. Each brand-new model enhanced the pistol and its functions. The gun itself Cannot be rendered safe without the chamber being empty. If you have your Glock properly holstered it cant go off, Those are what ifs what if you slip in the shower get hit in the crosswalk get rundown by a terrorist in a f150 train be vigilant and stay away from the end that has 6 letters. Let's dive into the depths of insanity when it comes to concealed carry myths. In order to fire, the pin needs to be hit hard enough to continue forward, past the point of contact with the hammer, and then into the primer. But people *MODIFY* (for chrissake) their Glocks trying to make the trigger compete with a 1911, then wonder why they shot their foot off. Now that we know what it means to have one in the chamber, let's figure out whether it is safe to carry a "loaded gun" with you. Thats intentional. Second, they also trained. For my "duty firearm", I carry a Glock Mod 22 Gen 4 (.40 S&W cal.). Safety rule number 1 a gun is always loaded. Since I do not carry(Los Angeles County), my handguns are ready very quickly. Thats not a very fresh idea. Now getting older, I have trouble with body positions for competitions, so I dont enter very many club competitions anymore. Some extras, just in case one breaks? The pistol was designed to be carried with a round in the chamber with the safety on or off as your choice. And so easy to correct. Modern revolvers with some sort of disconnect can be carried full up. So in 2019, are you telling a revolver carrier to carry only 4 bullets instead of five?? An empty chamber is worthless when you need it and fractions of a second count. Glock is known for its proprietary barrel design which is said to provide a better seal between the bullet and barrel, allowing less propellant gas leakage and less bullet deformation.